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Bipolar Disorder Thought Types

November 28, 2011 Natasha Tracy

Recently a doctor stopped by my blog and asked about types of thoughts people with bipolar disorder have. Specifically, he was asking about "crowded" thoughts. Crowded thoughts are likened to "too many people jammed into this office." Crowded thoughts constitute the experience of having too many thoughts at one time.

So it got me to thinking, what are the types of thoughts and what types of thoughts are typical for bipolar disorder.

What is a Thought?

A thought is a "product of mental activity," or an idea. OK. So what's a "normal" thought"?

In my mind your average ideas are like someone whispering in your ear. You know, "I like carrots," or, "why does nail polish flake so easily?" or, "I really should do laundry."

They are just random ideas that pop out of nowhere in particular. They may lead to other thoughts about maple-glazed carrots, manicures and Tide, or perhaps not. Either way, no big deal.

Bipolar Disorder Thought

But your average thoughts can be controlled to some extent. You can have the thought, look at it and decide what to do with it. Most thoughts get thrown out as soon as we have them. For example, thinking about carrots on the way to work isn't very helpful so that errant thought gets thrown out with the traffic report on the fives.

Bipolar thoughts are not so much like that. Someone doesn't whisper bipolar thoughts nor are they typically easy to shed. No, bipolar thoughts are like being yelled at.

Loud Thoughts

This brings me to the idea of loud thoughts. Rather than the thought being a whisper it is a yell. It is a thought being screamed at you so loudly that it bounces around on the inside of your cranium. These are thoughts that are impossible to ignore and just come right back if you try to put them away. They aren't necessarily crazy or disturbing thoughts, just ones that are yelled at you louder than you can bear. And loud thoughts tend to be repetitive.

(This is similar to the concept of intrusive thoughts, a technical term, but intrusive thoughts are involuntary and unpleasant.)

(Neither "loud" nor "crowded" thoughts are technical terms, just useful ones.)

Racing Thoughts in Mania or Hypomania

Racing thoughts, as they sound, are fast thoughts. So fast, in fact, you can't keep up with them. Before one thought is done another appears. And they often have no relation to each other except in a crazy world of rapid thoughts were logical leaps are flying ones from one pinpoint to another in vastly different spaces. Often the mouth is a slave to the speed of the thoughts and others tend to have no idea what you're talking about.

Racing thoughts are, of course, standard to bipolar mania or hypomania and a fairly common experience for people with bipolar. Racing thoughts are not, de facto, disturbing and might even be creative or useful.

(And none of this speaks to delusional thoughts which are a whole other beastie.)

Thought About Thought

All these thoughts made me realize, some of the thought types I have always had, like loud thoughts, are probably just the product of bipolar disorder. I've always wondered why sometimes one exchange of words can beat at the back of my brain with great insistence, noise and repetition. And it's probably just the crazy acting up. I find it causes extreme anxiety when there's a thought that refuses to quiet itself and it's somehow relieving to know it isn't just me; it's really just the bipolar.

And crowded thoughts themselves are an interesting notion and something I've experienced many times. "Get all of these people out of my office," is just about right.

Have you had interesting thought patterns that are perhaps related to a mental disorder?

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APA Reference
Tracy, N. (2011, November 28). Bipolar Disorder Thought Types, HealthyPlace. Retrieved on 2024, April 20 from https://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/breakingbipolar/2011/11/bipolar-disorder-thought-types



Author: Natasha Tracy

Natasha Tracy is a renowned speaker, award-winning advocate, and author of Lost Marbles: Insights into My Life with Depression & Bipolar. She's also the host of the podcast Snap Out of It! The Mental Illness in the Workplace Podcast.

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MaryAnn
November, 28 2011 at 12:55 pm

My bi polar thoughts makes it hard for me to read. Always an avid reader, when my bi polar disorder took hold, the racing, tumbling thoughts of hypomania makes it difficult for me to follow a story line. Twitter and blog posts are about the most I can decipher now. My ability to focus, to concentrate has

MaryAnn
November, 28 2011 at 12:56 pm

oops My ability to focus, to concentrate has been co-opted by crowded thoughts. It's frustrating as all get out because I love to read. One more reason to hate this disorder.

Xekora
November, 29 2011 at 1:07 am

For me, it's really weird because I'll have the racing thoughts which I will then expound and it seems like such an amazing thing because I'm talking so rapidly and I think I'm getting my point across really quickly which gives me more time, but ultimately the people I'm talking to just look confused even though I feel like I know that everything I said was absolute genius, they tend to disagree with that notion with their unpleasant faces sometimes it just gets me so mad because I feel like no one is actually listening to me because if they were I think they would understand what I was trying to say but maybe I'm wrong I guess I could be every now and then I know I'm not perfect but I can't stand how my sister has become so damn religious even though she says she isn't that she just believes in a higher power but that's a bunch of crap because she's so damn preachy and like forces her propaganda on everyone and it’s all because of her best friend which suggests to me that she is a follower which I guess she's always been but not to this extent it's really weird when people join cults not saying she's in a cult but she might as well be the way she talks I mean really Christian radio isn't going to make you a better person and she keeps her kids from me because she doesn't want me influencing them really how f'd up is that and then there's like a mass suicide but I'm not on any medication because I feel like the last time I took it I was a freaking zombie and I couldn't even get life insurance because I'm supposedly high risk which really sucks because I could die any day and I have a son so then where will they bury me even though I don't want to be buried but they never listen to me anyway and then how would they bury me which doesn't even matter because I don't want to be buried I'd rather be cremated but how will they pay for my cremation and funeral I hate insurance companies all they care about is making money why is it so important I can't die and I’ve always wanted to go to the Galapagos islands where Darwin came up with his evolutionary theory I love iguanas even though the last one I had used to whip me with his tail which hurt and everyone thought I was responsible for the wounds myself on purpose which I often did but I wouldn't whip myself seriously where would I find a whip and I'm not Jesus although sometimes I think that I was one of the better creations and I have a special purpose I know I'm like this really rare type of human with special gifts and I can do anything if people would just allow me into their lives I know I would change them for the better I’m always doing everything for everyone and it’s difficult to carry so much of that burden my time here is warranted I guess there are whips in adult stores but that's just crazy I really don’t need to sleep and I still feel amazing like I had all of the recommended eight hours or whatever many hours they say we humans need to survive I heard that when you stay up for so long that every time you blink you’re actually sleeping I don't know why, but there are times when all of these rapid fire thoughts are so overwhelming that I'll actually literally go deaf for like some time, I don't even know some days are longer than others have you ever heard of this? and it’s because there is so much pressure in my head from all the damn thoughts that I become anxious and want it to stop that I build all this pressure in my ears where I can literally hear my heart beating on the inside if that makes any sense which I guess it should because all hearts are on the inside, except for people who are born with their hearts on the outside in which case they need surgery to put in back on the inside unless of course they die in which case surgery isn’t necessary in fact all of your organs are except for like the largest one, but I guess that really doesn't matter what I'm trying to say here is that I'm deaf right now which is nice because I don't have to listen to peoples criticism of me why can't people just be nice and not treat me like such a crazy person who often think I'm weird because they used to call me psycho in high school I always try to explain things to people but they don't care to hear anything I have to say and even if they did I don't think they'd understand there are so many people out there who don't have an education learning is awesome I read all the time I wish that I can be in school forever I love to read for some reason I keep thinking of a red balloon maybe because I was playing with a balloon earlier with my son that was yellow with another balloon on the inside of that one which was orange it makes me think of fire and then there's hell my grandfather recently passed away and I don't think he ever loved me which makes me really sad I always think if people actually took the time to get to know me which I'm realizing as I'm typing how much this sounds cliché they would really love me because I'm amazing and I can do anything in the world I've always wanted to sky dive, I think I saw a picture of you doing it and it looks amazing and like a whole lot of fun my lifespan is shortened anyway with my disease so they say so why not go out with a bang if it must happen prematurely and I like shooting guns but I can never have one because I have a baby even if I got a case that only reads fingerprints because my pointer finger on my right hand has a really huge fingerprint altering scar form when I threw the bottle and gripped it so hard it broke in my hand cutting me deeply and it wouldn't stop bleeding I guess it didn't help that I was drunk because alcohol thins your blood and its bright red which is weird because when I was pregnant with him I seemed to be "normal" god I really hate that word what the hell does it even mean is anyone "normal?" I want to buy a gun for protection I used to want to be a police officer and I could be but I also love flying which makes me want to be a pilot but I’m going to school to become a doctor I change my mind a lot which makes it extremely difficult to get anything done I guess it doesn't matter I don't have any friends I kind of wish I did I always used to say I didn't need anyone in my life but as I got older I noticed how lonely I am and I'm a freaking fantastic human being like of another kind awesome I have amazing ideas and I get things done and if I just put it to use I’d be a damn multi-millionaire I used to work for the math and English dept. at my local college and they all loved me and praised my work up until the point where I went MIA for a month came back for two weeks and then became depressed and resigned which I hate to this day because that was one of the most if not the most amazing job I ever had. I suppose I made the mistake of mentioning my condition which I suppose led to them treating me differently and treading lightly which I despised and drove me nuts, nuts enough to lose it on my supervisor who always came in late but the moment it happened to me I was crucified for it people are so scandalous and deceitful a bunch of backstabbers and two-faced liars. I could never keep a job for very long eventually the crazy just comes out like here I am everybody the circus is back in town and everyone just stays away because they're afraid they might catch my non contagious disease I mean come on really ? Yeah I might do something which is just so offensive idiots bipolar disorder isn't freaking contagious people read about it and then maybe you'll get it but no one cares enough to do it’s just easier to outcast you and become the black sheep they don't take it for what it's worth they look at me like I'm a serial killer and I've never hurt anyone but myself I'm amazing that way. I have insomnia and I just think too much I want it to stop so I can finally sleep even though I don’t feel tired right now I’m just really productive I love it. My boyfriend is such an ass I don't know what to do about him because I love him but I think I feel more sorry for him than loving him He knows about my disease he's been with me for 8 long years and he's only 24
I guess that's kind of amazing considering he's witnessed my wrath which can get downright terrifying and he's still here, but lately he's just become this mean evil jerk but maybe I can't blame him and maybe he finally broke and I wouldn't blame him sometimes I don't even want to be around me hence the suicide attempts I wish I had better eyes contacts bother me, so do glasses I’m hungry I need to lose my baby weight pills make you gain weight I don’t want to be fat damn you unfair society we can’t all be anorexic stick figure models and we can’t all be Marilyn Monroe although I want to go back to being blonde I don't know what to do I just keep going and writing and its like it never wants to stop I have to stop I hate my thoughts getting off computer now. :/

Pamela Gold
November, 29 2011 at 7:58 am

My thoughts come so fast it often upsets my stomach. This is a wonderful post. I'm going to pass this along to my husband to read.

Gigi Marsten
November, 29 2011 at 9:32 am

Xekora, Are you putting us on? You write just like you think and probably talk fast too! There is no punctuation whatsoever throughout your diatribe... just your thoughts tumbling out.. and so long too! Wow! You should read your post again and see what you think! And, how you think.
You definitely should be on medication. I'm exhausted just reading that. Take care.

Natasha Tracy
November, 29 2011 at 10:33 am

Hi Pamela,
I'm sorry to hear that but I can understand an upset stomach when the thoughts come so fast.
I hope the article helps.
- Natasha

Natasha Tracy
November, 29 2011 at 10:36 am

Hi MaryAnn,
I can understand that frustration. I have to pick and choose my reading times carefully as there are many times when I can't concentrate as well. But I've found that is something is truly engrossing that helps. But I am very fussy about what meets that description.
- Natasha

Meriel
December, 14 2011 at 10:35 am

I think we may need to add repetitive thoughts. You know, those really useless snippets of conversations, often just phrases, that seem to keep popping up in your bipolar mind over and over again. I have times when I just think the same three words repetitively for days, sometimes weeks on end.

Beata
December, 15 2011 at 11:30 am

I was wondering if anybody else has experienced what in my family is called the Train?These are thoughts accompanied by a feeling of wothlessness and powerlessness much like during depression.We call it The Train because it is as powerfull as unstopable.It can ride you for days.It also feels like being under currnent,strange as it is...Last time it started at night and drove me crazy:)all night in my sleep to spit me out in the morning.When it stopped I was so tired as if I've been on a real trip of Merry-Go-Around.When it left me the world was innocent and pure like New Years Day.Does anybody know what I am talking about here?My both younger siblings have these thoughts and suffer greatly from it.

Dorothy
December, 20 2011 at 2:56 pm

I am the mother of a 38 year old bipolar daughter. I need help! My daughter is currently in a Psyche Hospital. I went thru great difficulty and heart ache to get her there. I was at 72 hour hearing and it was so painful. She chose a rarely seen "friend" as her contact person so the hospital will give no information to me. I have to help her any way possible even if it means she will hate me forever. I have been forced to testify against her 2 times in 2 weeks. Since the doctors refuse to talk to me, I have had to diagnose her myself. She has bipolar diagnosis and is so manic for last month that she cannot be approached due to anger, dellusions of grandure and extreme paranoia. I am a nurse and know little about mental illness but these seem to fit. She has alienated most of her friends and relatives. Landlord kicked her out, she quit her job on the spot and has no money. I want desperately to have her remain in hospital until her meds kick in but staff are talking about sending her home very soon. What can I do? Doesn't a mother have the write to help her daughter any way she can?

anita99
December, 29 2011 at 10:49 am

Xekora : wow never seen the like of this is a work of art, is this 21st century USA ??? to me, the verbal equivalent of Tracey Emin's Bed. ie ghastly, but modern Art.
HAVE U heard of 'gibberish healing??? check out Dr.Kataria.Laughter Yoga.
and Slava the clown. knows a lot more than any [moderated] pill pusher.

Amy Murphy
December, 30 2012 at 12:33 am

I have thoughts sometimes that you could say is like an annoying fly. It makes no sense, has no ryhm or reason but just wont go away. It will go on for hours on end for no reason. There is nothing I can do to make it stop and I usually can't even explain what the thought is. It's crazy. And it's usually something so insignificant that it's stupid. For instance, something like "my dog won't get under the cover because he doesn't think the hole to crawl thru is big enough". Some stupid thought like that will drive me nuts. I can't sleep over it. That's why I'm awake now. Then I start having conversations in my head kinda like I'm practicing a speach or something but I'm not. I'm just anticipating a conversation so I have the whole (my side) of the conversation and I can't stop having it.
Does this sound familiar to anyone else?

Max Sutcliffe
January, 5 2013 at 1:13 pm

Amy
This happens to me all the time its so bloody irritating!!
I couldn't stop repeating
"I am inclined to smoke the chap twice before meals"
Then trying to figure out what "the chap" was kept me awake all night.
I imagine that one day ill give my brain the ultimatum.
"Think normal things or be gone with you!"

Abe the "FAG"
February, 2 2013 at 12:27 am

first of all to all you people who dont understand bipolar thoughts. weather or not u have it, have learned through your own coping skills or have just found a comfortable niche where you can finally be the "shitter on" and not the shat upon.. please do not try to give advice because chances are it will deal more damage than it helped. fuckin weak tormented fools, supiroristic i know but im sick of giving power to people who just cant handle being out of their little comfort zones. and the worst thing is ive seen it all and because of that i will become nervous that i will do the wrong thing at the wrong time, which it obvs will because i think and do, which completely justifies whatever judgmental type thoughts the person is having in reaction to the fear of being unsuperior to a "mental" fellow like myself. and just not being able to see past the truth of the sitsu because the only truth they know is what works for them. and after all u will never listen to a crazy disabled person would u? descrimination

Megan
June, 14 2013 at 12:30 am

My bi-polor thoughts(all my thoughts) are like compounding elements that serve no purpose but stick around anyway to take up all the non existent and existent space in my head. It's a freaking issue.

Grace
June, 24 2013 at 4:18 am

I also have thoughts, not a little but a lot. They are a fly. I realise that it's hard to get rid of them if I react to my thought by brushing it away or think that it's a stupid thought. It will only leads me to more frustration. At last, I've learned to make friend with my minds by acknowleging it, recoginze it and understand its concern. Then I try to start searching for answer for my mind and me. So I'm a best frirnd to myself and I get so comfotable that I can be on my own .

Christina
June, 28 2013 at 11:55 pm

My thoughts come so fast my mouth won't keep up with my brain. I am up now at 4a cleaning because of the racing thoughts. So hard to Control

Julia
June, 29 2013 at 3:28 pm

I have bipolar, adhd, and ocd--so thoughts or lack thereof are a constant battle in one form or another.
I have confusion/no thoughts/jumbled head without my adhd medication. It thankfully just slows everything down so I can make one decision step by step.
I have racing thoughts, but they're too fast to be discern-able with the exception of one, which is like a hammer in my brain. This is my mixed state, because it's constant.
I have negative, critical thoughts which are usually repetitive and basically a constant commentary on what I'm doing and how I should be doing it differently, or something else, or anything critical.
I have anxiety thoughts, that are often racing and/or repetitive. They're worrying thoughts. "What if? I can't. But." etc. It also involves me working out conversations before they happen as well. Or rehashing conversations in the back of my head, though that would probably fall better under the negative thoughts. Anxiety thoughts are among my hardest. They're also obsessive and come with a compulsive need to fix whatever the anxiety thought is.
I have intrusive, usually violent, thoughts. Trying to make these go away or overly correct them does not help; it only makes it worse.
I have spontaneous and random thoughts just like anybody else; I tend to get excited over mine.
It is necessary to "talk back" to the negative, critical thoughts to a certain extent. To counter it or to reframe what I'm seeing as a problem more positively.
The two worst types are the jumbled/confused and manic racing. The intrusive violent ranks right in there too. They're all no fun.
I do have positive thoughts too!!! By choice, I create those.

Jamie
November, 19 2013 at 7:07 pm

QUOTE FROM GIGI ABOVE:
"Gigi Marsten says:
...You definitely should be on medication. I’m exhausted just reading that. Take care."
Yeah I agree she needs medication and YOU Gigi need to get off your medication --you know the BITCH pills you must be popping daily? Because Gigi you sound like SUCH a bitch!

stevie nicks
January, 2 2014 at 6:27 pm

When it comes to lording over another inmate here, it just doesn't belong. Your not the boss here and neither is she. You (nameless) sound like some one I used to know. She'd write on a bipolar forum under many assumed names, then answer herself, to either chastise one of her own characters, (anonymously) or to compliment one of her better personalities and writings profusely. She needed attention SO badly, she was writing scores of fake posts, all thru the day, changing her story lines, but truly and desperately begging for attention, nevertheless. I found out later she was borderline, and I jumped ship on that place. I learned that-that's a horrible place to be mentally and I was too fragile to take or hear the abuse with her unfamiliar, unwarranted anger and lording. She HAD to be right or she'd not eat. She'd follow you around under one of her alias' just to publicly berate you, if you had a different opinion. The moderator would kick her (one of her) off frequently, but back she'd come under another name. "No" or "leave" wasn't in her vocabulary. I knew nothing about BPD but do now, and when I see a bipolar woman -name calling, I get flash backs. If anyone reading this is BPD, take a deep breath if you feel like going 'off' on anyone. Try to follow the suggestions your therapist has given you. I have seen what damage you can cause and it's not fair to bipolar people. I say this kindly- trying very hard to understand the way you act or think but defending other 'bipolar only' people with their way of thinking. We are a different illness altogether. If you are co-morbid w/ bipolar you have my sympathies, it must be terribly rough for you. These are my intrusive thoughts du jour. Those darn triggers.

becky
March, 23 2014 at 5:37 am

I found this post because its dawned on me that my thought patterns are not normal. There is so much chatter in my mind that (like another posted said) it makes it hard for me to read, or concentrate on the things I'm meant to be doing. I zone out when people are talking to me to have a little think. I get edgy when I've been around people for too long and haven't had my thinking time.
These aren't sinister thoughts or anything but I massively over-think things until I find I'm thinking about thinking about thinking... You name it, I'll think about it. Snippets of conversations can kick around my brain for days, years... and if something bothers me, I'll stew till I'm sick to death of stewing. My thoughts can be quite rapid and bounce quickly from topic to topic. This can help sometimes - I'm a good problem solver because I can see all the possibilities at once; I'll think about the things no one else will think about and i'll weight them up faster to get to the solution. But in terms of life in general it's becoming a problem. I don't know if this is bipolar or not. I really just liked the way you had written about it and expressed it so well.

Stephanie
September, 17 2014 at 3:46 am

Wow, just been reading these posts and many over the past few weeks as for many years now I have I think been in denial that perhaps there is something not quite right mentally going on.
I can relate to so much of what I have read and feel a little less alone and confused just reading that it's not just me. But still wonder if Imagining it all.
The racing thoughts are like having bouncy balls in my head and the hyper activity is very distracting as although I'm faster and full of energy I'm not actually able to stick to any one thing.
I've never spoken to anyone or looked into this to much but I think maybe it's time I did.

lynne
September, 24 2014 at 9:24 pm

If only I could think like "normal" people. If only I could think even 1 thought that other people could understand (or just pretend to)! Everyone else's brain is so simple and straightforward. The way I try to describe what's inside mu head is...its like a ball of string has been pulled out of my head, unravelled, scrunched back up, tangled into massive knots and replaced back inside my skull-along with the 366 little (but very loud) people! They sound really cute don't they??? Those little people, but, no, they can't be trusted like everything else in life. They'll all start on 1 at the same time. Controlling every thought, idea, worry I have, trying to confuse me more than I already am. None of them help me now. It was so different in the olden days. I used to love to hear stories from my grandpa. Why can't I think and remember any good things? Why do they only let me keep bad thoughts and memories? Pumping pumping pumping...asking asking asking...shouting shouting shouting...banging banging banging...CONSTANTLY. I want to know what peace and quiet is...or do I? I'm pretty scared of that. Scared of being ALONE. At least all 366 of these little people make sure i'm never alone. I wonder....will they go take over someone else's brain when I die? How would they get there? Do they only go to useless people? To help them? Constantly laughing at me, coz i'm so f**ked up.Everyone.what is today gonna bring? STOP ASKING STUPID QUESTIONS LYNNE. Igive up Lynne!x

z
November, 17 2014 at 7:56 am

Before I get on medicine or have an episode my thoughts get eradic and I have many conflicting thoughts extreme paranoia. I find myself arguing with myself and so many thoughts that are useless and negative that I dont want but I cant help. I put myself so far down in the dirt that I cant pick myself up and end up having a breakdown.

Joyce
January, 17 2015 at 1:26 pm

Please help! I have a 28 year old son who is bipolar and is again believing that everyone is against him. He has alienated our whole family, except for my daughter for which i am grateful but i have a 2 year old grand daughter that he wont let me see and he also has a wife who has a debilitating disease. "Their phones are again off (purposefully) so no one can contact them but what is worse, they have no means of contacting anyone, should they need help for any reason. I am looking for ways to help my son and his family - ways to open up the lines of communication

Joyce
January, 17 2015 at 1:35 pm

when i went to their home today, my son was not there and his wife could not let me in and seemed to pensive. I need a bipolar support group. I have to find a way to help because he seems to getting back to that "paranoid" stage he was at before and it did not turn out well. I need suggestions because i will not do what i did before which was asked for the asistance of the CIT (Crises Intervention Team). who got spooked when they arrived at their home and reacted instead of following their proactive plan. consequently, this contributed more to my sons psychotic episode and made him even more paranoid. I need a support group. I need to be talking to someone. Please help with some good and sound advice if you can.

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Natasha Tracy
January, 18 2015 at 5:38 am

Hi Joyce,
I highly recommend you look up local mental health resources such as a NAMI group (National Alliance of Mental Illness). They may be able to point you to additional local resources.
- Natasha Tracy

Littlet
June, 22 2015 at 3:57 am

I think I suffer from bi-polar, but I'm not sure or maybe I don't want to admit it. As it scares me. I've never been one to ask for help when I need it, and I think I've had this disorder for a while. I think it was triggered when I was 13, I suffered from anorexia. I noticed my thoughts were irrational every now and then. I'd feel down one minute and great the next. But in the last 2 years my anorexia has become almost none existent. But since then my thoughts and the way I think has changed. I was just crying for about 20 minutes because I was worrying. But I can't even remember what I was worrying about. This has gotten to the stage where it has become average to have 'thoughts' atleast a handful of times a day. I'm super happy one minute and then lower than ever the next. I have also mentioned suicide in several episodes I have had. Particularly again since my anorexia has calmed down. I am controlling my eating disorder with the means I feel nessesary, but I think those means have made my 'thoughts' spiral out of control. I don't want want to see a gp. I'm terrified of them. I don't want to hear all the bad things they have to say about me.
Also the going over conversations that haven't happened yet is a big struggle for me right now.
I need help and everytime I think about going to the doctors I panic. And chicken out. I'm scared it's all in my head and I'll be laughed at.
Confused, scared and alone.

Ellie
July, 6 2015 at 10:55 am

Littlet -
It is absolutely not just in your head (so to speak!) and noone will laugh at you, only try to help. Asking for help is one of the bravest and most difficult things you can do, it is for a lot of people. I found it hard myself, but what I've learned is that asking for the right kind of help can be life changing.
Different things work for different people. Therapy works well for some (I had great success with the right therapist - though I had to get through 3 to find him); medication works for some, whether long or short term (I tried an array and personally they made me worse, so be cautious but consider it as an option if need be); yoga and meditation works wonders for any crowded mind, it's difficult at first and persistent thoughts can still come in to crowd you even after a lot of practice, but it gets easier to quiet them and then you're more prepared to deal with them the rest of the day (yoga had worked wonders for me and it's tangibly noticeable when I skip it for a few days- give it a go, you never know).
In fact look up a woman called Jen Hillman on YouTube and find a simple video from her for back stretches or something easy, to get you started. If you're anything like me you'll be addicted in no time.
It may also sound silly to some, but I have found sanctuary in herb. I drink Earl Grey tea and really inhale the aroma (bergamot is a known mood enhancer and extremely relaxing), take baths with Epsom salts and lavender oils (or anything relaxing). Just take the time to love yourself, it won't cure you, but it sure as hell helps to let that brain unwind and process with no other input, as often as possible, in as many ways as possible.
The most important thing is to know than you're in control of what help you seek and what you accept. I thought asking for help meant doing everything the doctor told me, but that's wrong, your doctor can only give you one perspective.
Good luck and take care of yourself x

-
July, 8 2015 at 4:51 pm

Bipolar thought is alot like the writting form "stream of conciousness", where you start with one word, and end up at another that popped into your head, which is usually an offshoot from the idea or concept behind the first word.
Like, you may start with "money" and follow with;
Central banks
Backed by nothing
Profit Off Interest
Debt
crippled economy
economic hitmen
john perkins
IMF
capitalism
Poverty
wealth
gap of classes
karl marx
communism
red
Vladamir Lenin
Stalin
Fascism
Warsaw Pact
(These are very related to the starting word, but not all racing thoughts are totaly disconnected)
The thing is, all this happens in the brain in under 60 seconds for a bipolar; the thoughts just cannot be matched by the speed of the tongue, and the whirlwind rages on.
#DopamineIsPower
Sources: Im Bipolar

Charcy
July, 16 2015 at 2:35 am

Whenever I have an idea to do or plan something, it's like my body can't catch up with my thoughts and it's like I can't move fast enough for my brain. Like, if it's something on my phone, if my phone is taking over 5 seconds to load something my hands will shake and sweat and i'll be whispering "COME ON!" to myself and get enraged. Is this a sign of bipolar disorder?

Anthony
December, 15 2015 at 2:36 am

I liked all of the blogs that had been written & could relate to all of them in some way I to now know I suffer from Bi-polar disorder. Have been through some very rough trots myself & can't thank you enough for this website it has helped me greatly start to see through other people's thoughts that that I'm not the only one thanks again
Anthony

Lynn Haines
December, 16 2015 at 3:33 pm

I have a constant fear of something I thought that would be very upsetting if the thought is true. I don't see how to eliminate the thought. I don't have any evidence that it is true, but I can't make it go away. I have been diagnosed with Bi-Polar and know that thoughts can be irrational. How do I deal with this?

Lacy b
January, 15 2016 at 3:20 pm

Hi I am new to having birthday polar but I have thoughts of wanting to hurt some one..this person snores so annoying, I hate heading it, can't sleep because this person snores every time I hear it I get so frustrated....urg......

Lacy b
January, 15 2016 at 3:21 pm

Bi polar

marko
January, 26 2016 at 8:26 am

I was recently diagnosed with BP2 disorder.When hypomanic i think A lot and i get very obsessive and indecisive, i get be extremely seductive,i can seduce anybody,to the point that i can predict what the other person is thinking about me and what is going to say next,i have every answer possible in my head at the second the question is asked,words are not enugh ti explain it but im always 100% in controll of all my thughts and i can focus all my thinking into anything i want.sometimes my brain is so hungry for new ideas that i can feel like i can do anything but i never loose controll somehow,honestly even when im depressed i just slow my thinking down and i focus more on emotions and love i never think about doing stuff,and i always get very irritable and snappy but i always control it by thinking to my self, im just hypo relax...and also im a christian very devoted so i never get too mad or loose controll or do weird stuff.My brain has been on every posible emotion a person can go thrugh seriously,ive been depresed for a very long time and many times ive lost contact with reality.I have figured that i am ALWAYS in controll of my hypomanias and if i chanel them corectly i can literaly do anything and seduce everybody,i can be extremely talented at a thing if i want to! And then it usualy happens very fast, depression is the thing i am most scared and afraid it fills my mind with negative thughts and emotions i feel extremely guilty for things in the past (thats why i never loose control and sin when im hypo).I get extremely anxious and sometimes foggy thinking and all sorts of weird stuff.My world view changes dramaticaly and i see all the imperfections in peoples thinking and that makes me irritable and angry,i sometimes hear things and my brain becomes completely blocked to the point it shuts down and i feel dead.Music helps me alot when depressed it feels like a drug sometimes and it seduces me and changes my visual world.Ok, one thing im shure all the thughts emotions and feelings a normal person has,a bipolar person experiences them much more intensively and much deepely,sometimes for longer periods of time and sometimes much faster. The most scary thing with bipolar disorder 2 is not being able to control the length of my depression and the intensity of it,i whould love my life to have a pattern of happines like everyone else,feeling stable is the best feeling ever that normal people need to embrace.

Backward in a front facing world
February, 25 2016 at 6:03 pm

My thought are so loud at times and so fast I get literally get a migraine and even then I can't turn them off. My family is always saying, Mom you didn't say it, you just thought it and I honestly don't know if they are right. I just want silence and I wish with all my being I could just breathe in my mind.

raisin
March, 1 2016 at 8:41 am

I take seroquel for schizoaffective bipolar type. It helps immensely for the redundant, rapid thoughts.

jojo
March, 23 2016 at 7:04 am

So many conversations replay in my mindset would they say that? Why are they so mean? How could I just stand there and take it? What could I say about it I cannot defend myself social anxiety. What I can say next time. What their reaction be? I feel horrible about how I did or didn't handle a conversation. Help!!!

Graham
April, 10 2016 at 4:26 am

Your definition of "loud thoughts" differs from mine. What I call loud thoughts are generally non-repetitive, they're just every single thought I have during the experience being amplified as if I were in some sort of emergency situation, but at normal speed, like;
"TIME TO GO TO THE BATHROOM, DON'T FORGET THE TOILET PAPER. WHAT AM I GONNA HAVE TO EAT TONIGHT?! HMM, MAYBE I'LL ORDER A PIZZA!!!"
It's kind of like having an adrenaline rush without the adrenaline or the speed. There's an intensity to them that's mildly disturbing.

Denise
June, 19 2016 at 11:32 am

My meds have helped a lot with my racing thoughts. I journal my thoughts a lot because it helps me focus. I also listen to audio books, rather than trying to read. Sometimes I listen to them twice so that I can make sure I got the information. I meet with other ladies for support as well as my doctors. It is good to be with like minded people.

Kelley tay
August, 9 2016 at 10:16 am

I have been having a problem with a mixture of the loud yelling thoughts and the crowded thoughts. It feels like there is so much yelling in my head at once. I can't understand what any of them are yelling at me, and when it happens everything feels off. I feel like I'm not supposed to be doing all of the stuff I try to do during it. Can anyone shed some light on this? It's been happening for a few weeks now and I'm pregnant.....

Bill
September, 2 2016 at 12:50 am

My bipolar thoughts are not intelligent, they are like spam mail. They repeat a lot
and some times I hear voices , crashes and bangs. No visual intrusions.
Bill

robertB777
September, 15 2016 at 12:11 pm

Hey everyone not sure if I have any symptoms. But I actually do however manage to have Loud thought. in my reference started with my anxiety going severe and I also have OCD intrusive, and Mental Health OCD. Well One day my panic attack was hitting hard, and all you know is I felt like I can hear my own thoughts. Like i can say it is my voice. I have no delusion nor weird way of thinking. I am in therapy and well honestly I have a fear of Schizophrenia and bipolar due to I have done research. I am a huge worrier and fearful of these phrases "what if I have schizophrenia or bi-polar?" or "what if these thoughts become auditory hallucinations?" these "what if" thoughts scare me. Like why must I stress myself. I have never been diagnosed Schizophrenia nor Bi-Polar my therapist says these are fears in reference to OCD related. I'm sorry I don't intend on calling anyone names, nor do I suppose to be cruel. Just these thoughts scare me sometimes and I enter a full blown panic attack. the thoughts seem normal calm and very suttle. But when I feel I heard my own Voice inside my own Head I'm like "woe did i just hear myself, i think i did" and then my mind sends PANIC ALERTS? is this anxiety stricken or Bi Polar? is this panic attacks or bi polar? just curious

Steve
October, 11 2016 at 5:36 am

This website is amazing!

Steve
October, 11 2016 at 5:54 am

I have been struggling myself for what feels like an eternity. I've always known that something is wrong with me. I have never aced exams or received 4.0 scores in my life, but it seems I practically outperform every individual I've ever met in my life. It's almost as if I feel like I have to race through life 100mph faster than everyone else just to survive. I'm not certain what caused what first; the fast thoughts caused the fast actions or vice versa. I am often bored to tears with most conversations with people and screaming inside my head "please hurry up!". I barely have the patience to listen to a therapist because I can determine the later half of their sentences by the look in their eyes. This website is a true new friend to me. Just knowing there are others out there that have racing thoughts through their heads non-stop makes me feel less alone now. I have had insomnia most of my life. Try getting asleep at night with all these thoughts, right. What's weird is that noise effects me something strange, though. That industrial like trance music with exactly the same fast repetitious beat almost make each half of my brain ache and pull at each other. The noise of a vacuum cleaner actually physically pains me, but of course I've learned to use headphones or loud music to mask these things. The hardest thing for me most of my life is remembering my past being so dark, and then realizing that most of it was the part in my head. I'm depressed in the mornings, by lunch I'm almost sociable and normal, and by evenings I want to go dancing or something but just an hour later so exhausted. I'm always tired and rarely get sleep. I'm very defensive about every little comment people have. I have forced myself to not care what others think anymore because in my head I'm practically strangling them until their face is purple for saying one constructive comment about me. I hold grudges forever with people that have wronged me, often yelling and screaming at them in my head as they walk by me. Sometimes I worry that I've said things out loud. I feel like there are certain times throughout the day where my mind is going 1000mph and everyone around me is still at 10mph. It bores me to tears to be a part of conversations these days; often yelling in my head things like "you are such an idiot; talk faster you cow!" Watching someone be rude often evokes an image in my head much like that of a horror movie where I'm stabbing them in the eyes with their own stupid ink pen used to write their dumb checks with in the grocery line. I have had thoughts of being a serial killer and killing myself. Then, the next day I'm a damn angel and everyone loves me. My moods swing like huge ocean waves before a hurricane, and there's no controlling my thoughts most times of the day. The slightest things can set me off. Someone comments about the weather and how they forgot their umbrella today, and I'm yelling in my head "oh you poor little bastard. I feel SO sorry for you, you pampered piece of crap! Shut the hell up you whiner!" I've suffered so much in my life because I've realized that all the usual stress everyone else goes through in college and military was multiplied by 1000 for me. I'm surprised that I'm not already in a mental hospital with the amount of stress I've survived all on my own. My family is as toxic as it gets, with a mean drunk for a father. My mother is as co-dependent as it gets. Anytime one of us kids complains about our issues her defense is "oh your father and I did a great job, grow up." So, I have realized I'm alone on this planet. I have a boyfriend; don't really want to go there. But, life has been a rollercoaster ride with SEVERE ups and downs. I wish I could learn how to relax. It's the number one thing that all therapists have tried with no success. I have taken many prescription drugs. Some made me fat, others made me suicidal, some made me absolutely 1000 times worse. Now I just forcefully control my every thought, and I'm getting super exhausted. There are days where I wish I could pull the brain plug just to take a relaxing nap. Naps are impossible for me; been so my entire life.

Cj
October, 17 2016 at 10:14 pm

Really appreciate all of these comments and sharing, this helps me so much it's incredible. I want to share in hopes of helping someone too.
I have a very heavy mind and honestly think of diagnoses terms as a guide for fixing bad habbits and eliminating genetic or childhood "demons" but not as a permanent disease like others embed into their identity. I suffer from extreme intrusive thoughts, OCD, mild personality disorder symptoms, racy mind(I call it the swarm ha),echoed thoughts for months, self sabotaging criticism, suicidal fantasies(really a yearn for escape and peaceful mind) constant identity analyse and depression. I am biased to my own human experiment and there are a lot of factors that I believe contribute to ones potential mental illness.
Through my experiments and study I feel like the biggest things to look at are your habits, when you take away all the habits that dont contribute to your ideal self, then you can determine whats you and whats just the side affects of a chronic habit.
I believe that in the end of things this method will give you an honest and clear idea of what you really need to do to get your head straight, as in dont need the drugs hopefully now that your work out/do yoga/hike or whatever helps give you focus and a consistent mental reset.
If I work out and take care of myself(aka building something for my mind to be proud of/make a consistent self esteem and confidence foundation), get 6-9 hours of sleep, eat low sugar/fried oil high brain food meals, get sunlight, have low amount of phone/Tv/video games/news/internet/ use, gain self control of procrastination/mind warping habbits like weed/online shopping/pornography, have some one to talk to (Therapist and an open minded friend).
Ive had times when Im doing all those little things and each one is a drop into the bucket of a mellow mind, you can aid the mind in so many ways, everyone is different. But be real with yourself, if you sit in a room for years, arnt active, eat poorly, and just stare at a screen in various forms like the majority of humans these days youre not going to be very prepared for the battle in the mind. We are all warriors fighting for peace. When youre strong and at your potential through willpower and patience the battle is a lot easier. But dont forget, even "normal" minded people fight the battle at some point. We just get a taste sooner and more often.
In the lowest lows self improvement advice can mean nothing and we lose focus, the biggest thing to remember is that when the swarm comes back even though youre working hard to rid yourself of it and its full force racing in your head and nothing can fix or calm it, to remember that it will pass no matter what, the heart beating will slow, and your can get right back to the agenda of re wiring you brain and being happy, just snap your fingers in your mind and say focus, back to it Ive got this.
Hope my rant helps. Ive always considered suicide to hush the mind, but I want to work hard and empower myself and others to thrive using their untapped strength.

Steve
October, 21 2016 at 11:24 am

I have recently had huge success in improvement. I stumbled upon that Sigmund Freud saying, "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes."
And yes, I was surrounded by nothing but assholes. I had to reinvent myself and make ME my best friend again; the person I was before I met all the assholes surrounding me on a daily basis. This includes family. I recalled as a child that I was very happy just playing all alone with my toys or coloring books. I rarely needed friends. I'm not recommending anyone be a homebody loner. But, being my own best friend again has made significant reductions in the amount of negative thoughts running through my head. The world around me immediately got brighter.
In addition, if you have any burning things you'd like to say to anyone close to you, you should do it right now. Tell them everything that's on your mind immediately. It is the most freeing feeling in the world. It is as exhilarating as riding a roller coaster once you let it all off your chest. The fear of what others will say about you causes stress. In fact, all fear causes stress. Pull the Band-Aid and blurt out your feelings. Learn to live alone and enjoy yourself. The less you rely on others, the more freedom you'll have to free those shoulders of the heavy burden of concern for others. And yes, you with the alcoholic parent that has always always avoided confrontation your entire life can do it, if I can. Get rid of every toxic person close to you. That doesn't mean burn bridges. But, if your best friend is toxic then maybe they should be placed on the bottom of the friend list until you are happier. Living alone can be fun.
And finally, I have Google'd every single emotion, insecurity, mental disorder and symptom anyone can imagine. I stumbled upon an article that explains how testosterone affects intelligence and vice versa. Basically, it was suggesting that most men that have extremely high levels of testosterone are less intelligent. How does this relate to what we experience? It doesn't directly. But, a side effect of exercising daily is increased testosterone. And, this can reduce the amount of "thinking" going on in our heads. Believe me, it worked. I immediately started working out again at the gym, and now I can relax once in a while.

Steve
October, 21 2016 at 11:35 am

By the way, I still have crazy loud and/or speeding thoughts running through my head. But, I have discovered that using sarcasm and humor with myself in my head helps me love myself that much more because it's fun and hilarious. My boss states the obvious to me, and inside my head I'm saying, "Wow, some lady gets to spend her evenings with your brilliant mind. Poor girl."

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