Levels of Depression, Types of Depression

There are I agree many subtle shades of depression which can be coloured by many other components, not limited to drug abuse, poverty, and sexual abuse. Depression permeates the soul.
It is hard to explain to someone how you feel when you are buried in blankets or sitting in a dark closet. It is impossible to rationalize an overdose of psyche meds or impulsively quiting a job to someone when you cannnot rationalize it to yourself. I lost a brother to suicide a victim of an unrelenting illness, depression.
I cannot determine anyone elses course of action for this dreaded disease. If someone asks for an opinion I have one, but otherwise I have nothing to say, I have no unsollicited advice to offer. What path you follow is the correct path because it is the one you have chosen. If it does not work, so be it, it is not for us to judge, it is for us to offer up our support if and when you need it.

Hi Jake,
I'm immensely sorry to read that you've been touched by suicide so personally. That's a really tough thing to go through.
"What path you follow is the correct path because it is the one you have chosen. If it does not work, so be it, it is not for us to judge, it is for us to offer up our support if and when you need it."
Honestly, that is one of the best things I've read in a while. Thanks so much for writing that; I know it offers support to all the people who read it, knowing that they are not being judged.
- Natasha

As with all of your writing, this is succint and utterly, utterly correct. This piece should be mandatory reading for everyone, especially people who think "occasionally being sad" is no different to severe chronic depression!
I really love your blog, keep up the awesome work. :)

Hi Amanda,
"As with all of your writing, this is succint and utterly, utterly correct."
That is very kind, thank-you.
If only I _could_ make a list of mandatory readings! It would really improve the life of everyone who is touched by mental illness (which is pretty much everyone).
"I really love your blog, keep up the awesome work."
I'll try. Thanks.
- Natasha

Again, thankyou. I am an avid reader and twitter follower these days. I attending a Mental Health First Aid Course last weekend, and had the opportunity to share a lot of my personal experiences in a very safe setting, it was empowering. I passed on your url's as I feel that the more people that become enlightened the better. I love today's post, as it really explains that we are all touched differently by depression, or any mental illness for that matter.

Excellent to see this being addressed. I have two separate depressive disorders: Major Depression (Recurrent Type) and Dysthimia (they sound redundant but I've learned that they're not.) One of my biggest pet peeves with layman depression advice is the automatic 'get more exercise and eat right' line. It bothers me not because a healthy diet and exercise aren't positive habits - they unquestionably are - but because that advice assumes all depression is the same. It most definitely is not.
In my personal experience, chronic, low grade depression like dysthimia responds well to healthy eating, exercise, plenty of water, and the proper amount of rest. When I'm in the grips of a major depressive episode, however, those things do nothing. They aren't hurting me, obviously and must surely impact my overall health. But they have zero effect on my depression. It's like taking aspirin for labor pains - labor pains that seem to last a minmum of 6 months.
Thanks for addressing this topic, Natasha.

Hi Kylie,
Thanks for passing on my links. I'm honored that you think so highly of my work. It's great you felt empowered through sharing.
- Natasha

Hi Holly,
I have a similar opinion. Mild depression is different. Period. I have no doubt that different things work for people with mild depression, but they just don't touch the sort of thing I generally experience.
People don't believe me when I say exercise doesn't make me feel better. It just makes me feel tired. People don't believe me when I say focusing on diet does nothing. (In truth, the only thing I've seen is actually a negative reaction on a low-carb diet, but that's another thing.)
If I could _list_ the number of things that are a good idea but do nothing for me it would take up an entire other blog post.
(And I didn't mention this, but as far as treatment goes, bipolar II depression is one of the hardest types of depression to treat. Just sayin'.)
"It’s like taking aspirin for labor pains - labor pains that seem to last a minmum of 6 months."
That's a good one. I may steal it.
- Natasha

Jake commented: "It is impossible to rationalize an overdose of psyche meds or impulsively quiting a job to someone when you cannnot rationalize it to yourself."
oh. my. goodness. I have been there. I'm so glad he shared this because I cannot stop beating myself up over impulsively, desperately deciding to quit my amazing job last year. I can't help but think I've ruined my own life even more than it was already messed up.
Maybe it's weird, but I am so encouraged by this. Thank you, Jake.

I googled mental illness in the hopes to find a really good supportive blog that speaks the truth and not just some repeated generic narrow view of people that assume all types of depressive illnesses are the same.
I'm not sure what I suffer with, but I know I am suffering. I just can't afford to pay for treatment, and phoning around for "free" treatment is something I just can't do, I suffer with anxiety so that doesn't help.
@Beth - I can totally relate to this, I'm curently 21 years old (Just, 17th Feb) but a few years ago when I was 17 I impulsively quit college (one year before going to Uni aswell) because of the adopted views I had of society because of whatever it is I'm suffering with. I've regretted it ever since, because now I'm unemployed going from pointless placement to pointless placement, getting nowhere and unable to go back into education because of lack of money to live off.
...Anyways, I'm rambling on now. Best post I've seen so far, good job Natasha, this made me feel like I could relate somehow.
-Wayne

Hi Wayne,
It's hard to find a place and a perspective that speaks to you, I'm glad you've found one here.
You are not alone.
Whatever suffering you are feeling right now, I guarantee to you, others have felt and are feeling the same way.
Regarding treatment, I don't know what your situation is, but one of these numbers may help you: http://www.healthyplace.com/other-info/resources/mental-health-hotline-numbers-and-referr…
I know you've said you feel you can't call, but at least you can have the numbers for a day when you do feel up to it.
Drop by any time.
- Natasha

Hi Natasha,
Great blog! vitamin D3, and a B complex vitamin tablet-recomended each by a physicians-and then I added an Omega3 fatty acid tablet, was found very effective by me for mild depression with a lot of rest over the last 6mo. It's my own belief that the ill brain will require more nutrition to heal, I believe that it will try to heal on its own, and that the brain's need for increased nutrition contributes to individual weight fluxuation and symptoms that are saying, 'Please attend to our matter of becoming ill.' If my brain is saying, 'I feel like dieing', It's an 'I don't feel so good right now.' This theory suggests that some symptomes are not connected to the sorce of the illness and suplimenting the need may lighten other issues that are agrivated by an issue of nutrition; it may inhibbit ones abillity to heal, and on an unconscious level, a deprivation translates into neglect if that was an issue. Once your brain is sick its not the same as a healthy brain. My respons to the suppliments is very hopefull which tends to decrease alot of issues and make me more resillint and "bounce back" from stressers. The helpless victem is passing from my thinking. I'm going to add a multi vitamin because I seem to like salad so much. Thankyou, what a wonderful support blog!

Hi Lynette,
Certainly, you should continue what works for you, but for others, two things:
1. Do not take any supplements without discussing it with your doctor
2. Those supplements have no scientific backing: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/breakingbipolar/2011/03/diet-and-bipolar-disorder
Thanks for contributing.
- Natasha

Thank you, THANK YOU, for saying this.
I understand that for a lot of people, depression can just resolve itself. I know this sounds mean and hurtful, but sometimes I believe that these people didn't really "cure themselves" or "worked their way out of it" -- it just resolved itself much little a mental flu. These people are riding along a self deluded high where they thought they fought the beast and won... but maybe the beast just got bored and walked away.
For people to then assume that everyone's experience with anything is the same as theirs is just wrong.

I agree there are a lot of different levels of depression
Somedays when I am pushed beyond my ability to cope I feel like an animal backed into a corner with someone poking at me with a stick Its at times like this that depression rears it's ugly head as extreme irritability
The other day I was stressed out and irritable due to the pressures of work. My computer wouldn't allow me to use it until I changed a password. I was so pissed off that I changed it to an expletive. Then at lunch I was sitting in a quiet area of McDonalds having a salad and water when a homeless person came by begging for money. I was so angry because I was on a break trying to de-stress myself. It reminded me of how I could end up if I don't learn to manage my illness better. Then on the way home from work I rested a moment on a bench to use my cell phone and someone came by trying to get my attention and I scretched out NO, waved them away and got up ubruptly ready to leave only to realize it was a coworker who lives in my area just trying to say hi. I was embarrassed and apologized profusely
When I got home I went straight to bed. When I got up the next morning as I was getting ready for work I found myself crying as I was washing my hair and wretching as I was brushing my teeth. Not the best way to start the day...

my name is michael i have experienced depress most of my life. i am having now ishave been in full blown chronic well over a year...go to my therapist once week see my phys once a month to keep posted as how well i am doing on my meds i aint doing good and tell them i dont i am getting better some days are worse....i have no desire to change any of my behavior i should be looking a job but i dont want too..was going to church and enjoy it immensely but i dont any more whatt is wrong with me

Natasha -
Interesting comments. Thank you for the venue. Here is my question:
What is the name of my type depression? A pschyatrist gave it to me years ago, and he has since died. I tried participating ed in depression studies and have never qualified. On two occaisions, I was told that I was "too depressed" and the drug they were testing would not help. I found that humorous. "Too depressed".
Anyway, I have felt "unhappy" all my life. "Happy" people are not "normal" and who is to say that "happy" is "normal". I attempted suicide at 19 (I/m 60 now), but a friend interviened and obviously the attempt was just that - an attempt. I don't have a death wish, but I'm certainly not afraid to die. I have never cared emotionally about anything or anybody. I tell my girlfriend (and 2 ex-wives) that I "love" them because that's what I'm supposed to do and that's what they expect, but truthfully "love" is an abstract emotion. Daily questions such as "what do you want to eat, where would you like to go, what movie would you like to see, etc. promt the same response "I don't care" - because I don't. And I guess that's the overriding symptom: I don't care. Never have.
There's a name for this type depressionit, but I have lost it. Can you assist?
Thank you

Hi Lynn
Perhaps the word you're looking for is
Anhedonia - literally translated as the inability to feel pleasure

Hi my name is Maria Santos and I'm 15 years old me or my mom ever thought that I would be told I had depression at the age of 13 years old when the told me I had it I thought I e
Was alone and I always told my self your different from others and people don't like different and I started to cut myself and my school found out and thin I have to go to a plays where crazy people went and I as 6 months cutting free untill something went down and I started cutting again and now I have to talk medicine and I'm one that doesn't like to take medication cuz I fill different form people and it just makes me want to cut more but it is going to be 2018 soon and I'm going to lose people down the rode of my life but the one thing I want to know is.... Why do people tell others not to kill there self there going to die ether way so why don't we just cut the bull ok the people that want to kill thin self's want to do it for a reason like I have a reason so why make someone else suffer if there just going to end it and oh ya I'm suicidal :) have a nice day. °~°

Hi I am shreesty
I am 25
I am not sure that its called depression or not
I mostly stayed alone
And I like dark
Even if I been in a crowd but still have the feeling of loneliness. Also my mood swings, now I was happy and after some time I feel sad . Sometimes I had a feeling to suicide. I sometime try myself to think positive but it comes up to negative.
Please help me out
What should I do